ray winstone
1:01 Tue May 21
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Enjoyed that, nice one.
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11:22 Mon May 20
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Chim, in those days the Police were effectively Thatcher's private army. She came to power gave the Force a massive pay rise and they did her bidding in a most political way including seeing off the miners and supporting the Murdoch print works move.
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chim chim cha boo
8:00 Mon May 20
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I've only just made the time to watch this and fuck me I didn't expect it to be so moving.
My mum had severe mental problems (fortunately she only tried to strangle me with a broom handle!) and I was one of the Persil ticket herberts but although I skated around the periphery of the Mile End lot I was a bit too young to get really involved.
I also got swept up in the Thatcher bollocks, snatched at random at Chelsea away and charged with assaulting a police officer and affray. Immediately banned from West Ham without a day in court, signing on at 3PM every Saturday at East Ham nick and for nine months I was trying to fight my out of at least 2 years shovel for something I was totally innocent of.
By the time it got to court I was somehow 'at the front and seemingly in control of a large group of West Ham hooligans' and the lies the police told were fucking outrageous. To cap it all the arresting officer made himself out to be a proper hero 'apprehending' me and saving the public from a full-scale riot! What a cunt!
Fortunately my brief was on the ball and handed him his arse, picking his statement to bits and my pal's mum who was a magistrate stood as a character witness.
Interestingly, like Bill, I came away not relieved that I avoided prison but just angry and bitter. The judge said that I wasn't walking away as an innocent man, just that the prosecution didn't have quite enough evidence to convict me.
The only satisfaction I got was walking past the policeman as I left the court and saying quietly 'I hope you die horribly you scummy cunt'.
It doesn't surprise me that Bill's boy is a teacher and I've always been a bit disappointed that such a natural orator and force of nature hasn't had more of a positive influence within the club itself when so many toerags have set themselves up as the voice of the supporters.
How funny would it be to see Bill's face in the boardroom with Brady explaining the results of her latest customer satisfaction survey on a pie chart!
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easthammer
3:25 Mon May 20
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Watched this yesterday and found it both interesting and informative and perhaps a little sad..
I am few years older than you (BG) and kind of missed or rather side stepped the hooligan violence. Not that I think this video was just about that. More about the lack of love and the need for reognition.
At the start of 70s I was already 23 and use to watch what I considered the mindless kids charging about but never understood why. I now know that behind all the jumping up and down and posturing there was real violence at al level I couldn't cope with. Not that I was a shrinking violet.
When I went to football in the 70s I was part of a small group of young men who were confident to handle themselves in most situations. Be that fight or flee. But we never sought confrontation. And never knowingly had cause to be thankful to others looking after us.
Having listened to you (BG) and read Cass Pennant on the subject I am glad I was never involved. Does that mean I am not West Ham I really hope not.
Good luck with the book I will probably give it a read always willing to learn even at my age. (PS agree about Tottenham its an age thing)
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normannomates
7:38 Mon May 20
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Darby
My batteries are fully charged my friend.. Gonna be a while tilll I resort to toasties
Two pairs of socks.. Wet ones under armpits all night stag if need be.. All kit same order..
Minging in the field is not tolerated.. Feet are most important for tabbing.. So having dry socks makes sense..right?
I can't here ya
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normannomates
6:42 Mon May 20
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Easy for cunts to judge.. Very fucking easy.
FUCK EM ALL..
IF YOU KNEW HOW IT WAS.. YOU HAVE NO REASON TO EXPLAIN YOURSELF
ENDEX
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normannomates
6:21 Mon May 20
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Bullying SCARFERS is beyond cuntish..
Pissed/Charlied up Barmies can be a danger.. but easily slotted with right bods
Leeds/Mancs/Geordies are the barmy Kings.
We humiliated the Geordies in dusseldorf.. But we were finished yrs back.. Haha
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normannomates
5:48 Mon May 20
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Mile end mob were.. too put it mildly.. fuckin insane.. No fuckin about.
Canning town bods gave em a good run mind.
The fact both were WHU tells you all you need to know
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normannomates
5:31 Mon May 20
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Len
Where did you travel exactly?
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normannomates
5:20 Mon May 20
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Jfk
Those same bullies would be same bullies buying you beers all night long in THEIR own boozer.. If we decided to humiliate the cunts
Know what I mean
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jfk
1:40 Mon May 20
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I was at the play off final against Preston North End at Cardiff with my then 8 year old son.
We walked through the wrong end of millennium stadium by mistake my son had a West Ham flag.i was kicked and covered in gob my kid was pushed and shoved.
There was a few PNE older fans who. tried to stop the pack of bully cunts to no avail.
A few West Ham fella's who'd took the same route clocked what was happening the situation was over before a punch was thrown.
I've followed us for a long time I've never witnessed any of ours set about a bloke with a young son.
If it was to happen I'd be first to put a stop it.
We have a reputation as lots of other clubs do and some fucking wankers seem to think starting on a fella with a young kid is fair game because of the team we follow not necessarily any thing to do with the hooligans just jealousy because of out proud working class London history
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icwhs
11:41 Sun May 19
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Good luck with that book Bill..
Was going to talk to you once walking down Green Street...and for some strange reason, i sort of bottled it.. don’t really know why.
Great watch by the way.
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Leonard Hatred
10:56 Sun May 19
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c-c
For fuck's sake pack it in.
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chav_corner
10:52 Sun May 19
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Bill,You love your West ham Family but don't ever forget that they love you too.-Our Spiritual leader.
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wd40
10:47 Sun May 19
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Good watch cheers.
Book will beat most of the crap boring diluted run of mill personal life books that get throw at us at Xmas.
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geoffpikey
9:47 Sun May 19
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I enjoyed that Bill. I'm nowhere near as hardcore as you, but you have my respect. Without folk like you, West Ham United would die. Have a good week.
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wanstead_hammer
9:31 Sun May 19
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I remember Buggsy.
Mile end.
They were a bit older but being fm Stepney, remember a lot of em.
I’m sure bill’s book will fill in any gaps.
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Hello Mrs. Jones
9:14 Sun May 19
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Thanks Bill for saving me from a hiding twice in the 70s. I was at the Cripps testimonial and trapped on the underground platform with a load of West Ham.
I remember one black bloke for West Ham called Buggsy who steamed into them time and time again.
Does anyone else remember this bloke?
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Leonard Hatred
7:51 Sun May 19
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I'll investigate the book though as BG seems an interesting bloke.
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Leonard Hatred
7:50 Sun May 19
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I used to go to away games in the 80s and never felt it necessary to fight anyone.
I'm with Gilmore on this.
No offence to anyone, and I don't want any death threats.
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